There are so many video’s about Canadian Health care out there! Proving to me that depending on what side of the debate here in the U.S. a person is on they can and will find numerous ways to support their opinion.
Here is one that shows the Canadian system in a bad way. The video below was by Steven Crowder a comedian and political commentator.
The Canadian system is show in a positive light in this video posted on US Health Crisis blog by Karoli.
Geezz, our country, The United States of America, is NOT, I repeat NOT Canada. So why are people using it on either side of the health care debate to support their ideas? Even President Obama at the joint press conference in Guadalajara with the Canadian Prime Minister said:
“I suspect that you Canadians will continue to get dragged in by those who oppose reform, even though I’ve said nothing about Canadian health care reform. I don’t find Canadians particularly scary, but I guess some of the opponents of reform think that they make a good boogeyman. I think that’s a mistake.”
Here is a link to the video of the conference comments if you want to check it out for yourself. Obama’s comments on health care start at 36:04 on the time line and the quote above is at 39:07.
Wouldn’t this whole debate/discussion be a lot easier if the politicians would decide which one of the 5(?) different plans they were going to run with, figure out how the plan would be paid for and actually explain it to us? All the back and forth and double talk is very defeating. Instead of out of control and over reaction from the U.S. citizens at town halls etc. we could actually discuss the facts not all the fear driven or party line conjecture.
Karoli
I’ll tell you why I support the talking-up of Canadian health care system. I think the single payer system is the way we should be going rather than piecing together little tiny tidbits of a dysfunctional corporate insurance model. However, the single payer model won’t even be considered until people start understanding how it works and why it’s not some subversive Commie plot to take over the world. So I’d like to start educating on it now, rather than later.
Truly, health reform could have been as simple as revoking the minimum age for Medicare eligibility, leaving the insurers to figure out how to sell their nonsense when people could buy into Medicare and sleep at night, but for the deep pockets and reach of insurance industry executives (yes, alongside pharma and others…).
Until people actually start understanding why seniors like Medicare and Canadians like their Medicare, we’re going to be round and round with each other in a debate over ideologies instead of ideas. It takes a grass-roots effort.
Imagine what might have happened if Obama campaigned on HR676. President McCain would have turned a blind eye to the goings-on with health insurance and health care for another 4 years.
kmilyun
I guess I think that the issue has gotten so confused with everyone flinging mud that using Canada’s health care system into the mix just confuses it further. We are (those discussing it) going around and around and around . … hit me over the head (ok don’t it would hurt) but I tend to think that most of the population here in the U.S. (not those who are actually interested and have educated themselves but a majority) are lazy, politically unaware, and form their opinions based on 30 second sound bites.
In answer to your next comment – yeah yah think?? LOL the videos are examples of each point of view using Canada as an example. I do but more faith in the validity of the second one. the first right off the bat consider the source – a comedian/political commentator. They were just that examples of what was out there.
Scare tactics affect the seriously ill informed, uninformed, and snare of few well meaning folks along the way too. It took me a few days to read the current bill yikes pages upon pages of legal gobbledygook and I think I am a better reader than what the school system has been putting out the last decade (yes there are some great readers and highly educated, motivated kids out there).
HR676 is the only bill that I read and because of its brevity and clarity I understood it. I agree that the country/politicians are not going to allow a single payer solution right now.
Karoli
Oh, by the way…that Crowder video has some…contrivances.